Derek, I met this hottie at a bar and we chatted for a few minutes. Things were going well and we were really clicking fast so I asked her for her phone number.

She gave it to me…

Two days later I called her back, but no answer. The next day I called her again and she picked up… but her end of the conversation was stiff and it seemed like she was blowing me off.

Derek, what happened? At the bar she seemed interested. Where did I do wrong?

Raz

A lot of guys think that once they have a girl's number, success!

Not so.

Just because you have a woman's number, it doesn't necessarily mean much.

It's quite possible that the girl took a liking to you, and you came across as cool dude. But a RANDOM dude nonetheless.

Sometimes women are flattered when they are asked for their number. So she gives it to you.

Sometimes women feel too guilty and bad to say "no" because you seem like a cool guy and they don't want you to think they're a bitch.

Even if, in the moment, she gives you her number and she would like you to call her, it doesn't mean that two days later when you DO call, that she'll be in same headspace. The fire of the moment is gone and now she starts to rationalize reasons not to take your call.

That's why most of the phone numbers that men get may be good for feeding their egos, but in reality are worthless pieces of paper.

You could go up to dozens of women, give them a compliment or ask for their opinion on something, and then get their number – but 90% of the numbers you would get this way would lead to dead ends and message machines.

So what's the key to getting QUALITY phone numbers and not just quantity?

Most throwaway phone numbers are a result of the man getting the number too fast.

First of all, if you're at a bar and meet a girl, don't talk to her for only five minutes and then jump for the phone number and leave thinking you're going to score. After all, what's the point of getting a phone number in the first place... to meet up later and continue the seduction, right?

But you had her right there at the bar, right THEN. You could have used that opportunity to seduce her right THEN. You were on a "date" with her right THEN. So getting a number so that you can meet up with her later, and walking away from the interaction in the moment is totally counterproductive and nonsensical.

Also, if you get her phone number without going through the proper preliminary steps, then yes, the girl might be digging you, but in reality you didn't have enough social value to her for her to want to start an ongoing, dating relationship with you.

A girl who with a social value of 8 might give her number to you if she perceives you to have a social value of 6… but that doesn't mean she'll follow up with you.

Phone numbers are only solid when you both have the same social value.

If you both have the same social value, she'll be WAITING and HOPING for you to call.

So BEFORE you get a woman's phone number, you want to make sure that you have at least equal, if not more social value than her.

That means having social proof if possible, using the nonverbal sexual cues, entertaining and leading her peer group, lowering her social value by temporarily ignoring her or teasing her, dressing well, ignoring social pressure, and so on… all the methods that build social value in a woman's eyes.

Then, once she's given you a few green lights, start screening her. If she passes your screening, accept her. Then isolate her if she's not alone with you already.

NOW you can get her number.

Basically, if you want a SOLID phone number that will have the girl waiting and hoping that you'll call, don't even bother getting it until the girl has shown you a number of green lights and you've screened her and she's tried to pass your screening.

What Works Better than Phone Numbers

Instead of getting a woman's phone number, propose an "instant date" right on the spot.

After all, why would you meet up with her up later for a date when you could go on a date with her RIGHT NOW?

If you're on a campus, invite her to go to the bookstore with you and have coffee.

If you're at a bar, invite her to go to Denny's restaurant for nacho chips with you.

If you're at the mall, tell her you need some help picking out a shirt.

Or you can even instant date her to her apartment if it's nearby – because you just have to show her your aquarium and the pirate crab with only one claw (or use whatever other excuse you can come up with).

When you score an instant date you're no longer just "some guy she met at a bar" but rather you become "a guy she's been on a date with". To a woman's mind, it's a much stronger position for you to be in.

If she declines the instant date, instead of getting a number, schedule your first date right then.

Say to her, "Well Thursday I'm busy because I promised my friend Jennifer I'd help her move... but Friday I'm going to be hitting the beach with some friends. You can come too, it’ll be a blast."

Or tell her, "You like comedy don't you. I'm thinking of going to this comedy show Friday night... I've been wanting to see it for weeks now and I hear the guy is hilarious. You'll bust your ass laughing."

Have a cool date idea prepared and ready to go BEFORE you go out so that you have something to fall back on in case nothing comes to your mind in the heat of the moment.

Also, try to couch it like you're inviting her to something you were going to do ANYWAY, even if she wasn't going to go with you. Couch it like you're doing it is not dependent on her showing up. You ALREADY have a cool and exciting life and you're just inviting her along for the ride.

Once you've scheduled the first date right there, THEN swap numbers.

Then it's natural to get her number so you can keep in touch with her if your plans to change. You're no longer getting her number to "date her". You're already dating!

Also feel free to call her up later and CHANGE the date plans on her. If you feel like it, call her up and change the day or what you'll be doing. After all, you're not tied to what you already specified by some mysterious law of the universe. Girls do this all the time to guys. And it just makes it look even more like what you're doing isn't dependent on her.

IF she resists going on an instant date with you, AND she won't commit to setting up a date right there and then, then fall back on swapping numbers. However, this probably means that you didn't build enough social value to her in the first place and most likely the number will not be worth the paper it’s written on.

In fact, if you played the seduction right, SHE should be volunteering HER number. You shouldn't even have to ask for it.

Sometimes, just small tweaks in your methods can seriously UP the success of your game almost overnight.

Ditching the "quick number" strategy and knowing when and how to continue a seduction with a woman is only ONE of those tweaks.

There are HUNDREDS more.

And by knowing the rest of the scientific methods of seduction, you'll learn how to build your social value so that women don't just give you their numbers out of courtesy... but they give you their numbers because they pray at night that you, that super-sexy guy they met, call them.

And right now, there are thousands of beautiful women out there that have Seduction Science to thank for meeting a dream guy.

Why don't YOU become one of those dream guys?

You can and that new, wonderful, alternate reality lies right at your fingertips. Check out The Seduction Science System, 2nd Edition today!

Derek Vitalio

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